2022年6月2日星期四

关于Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard Civil Lawsuit 的观影感受 (2022)

关注Johnny Depp 和Amber Heard的诽谤官司有两周的时间了,而这场经历了1个多月的诉讼也终于迎来大结局。。。

鉴于平日的我也不算太关注娱乐圈的8卦,那为什么我会这么关注这次的民事诉讼呢?
也许是很好奇男人是如何成为家庭暴力的受害者的,毕竟这和我们的认知非常不同,看了些文章,还是有点被JD打动的。
还有这次诉讼是现场直播,全世界人民都在吃瓜,网上有太多的视频,很难让你忽略。
最吸引我的还是看律师如何为自己的client fight,简直是斗智斗勇,比电视剧还好看。

偶然的机会,发现一个YouTube博主“好机车”,说一口地道的英文和台湾话,视频主要是英文的,有繁体中文字幕,把我听不懂的英文都清楚地解释了,而且时长把握地非常好,十多分钟,还非常勤快,日更!非常方便我追剧!

其实心里还是会心痛JD两秒,身为吃瓜群众,和全世界一起吃瓜,看着JD把自己以及和AH的所有不堪的事无巨细地展露给全世界,想想都觉得伤感。

本来希望周五(May 27)Jury能达成 Unanimous Verdict,可是愿望落空。而且由于周一是Memorial Day,Jury周二才能重新开始deliberation,运气好的话,周二就有结果,运气不好的话,最迟周四才会出结果。

周二等了一天没有结果,周三中午的时候忽然看见中学校友群有人说周三下午三点EST会出结果,这才发现原来吃瓜的不止我一个,身边还有不少人也在关注。

周三下午终于迎来了大家翘首以盼的Unanimous Verdict,大家一起激动起来。

看了好机车的视频,就知道JD要告赢实在太难了,他的lawsuit一共有3个statements,每个statement都有几个condition,每个condition都得回答Yes,他才能算赢。反之AH的counter lawsuite也一样。
下面这两个视频是好机车关于这场诉讼的取胜条件:
整理如下:
Question
1. This special verdict form includes each of the statements on which John C. Depp, II, bases his claim of defamation against Amber Heard. Answer the questions in accordance with the Court's instructions.
As to this statement appearing in the online op-ed, entitled "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change" in the Washington Post's online edition:
"I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change."
1(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:
The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard?
The statement was about Mr. Depp?
The statement was false?
The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp?
The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard?
Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp?
1(b). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice?
2. As to this statement appearing in the op-ed entitled "A Transformative Moment For Women" in the Washington Post's print edition and the online op-ed "Amber Heard. I spoke up against sexual violence--and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change in the Washington Post's online edition:
"Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture's wrath for women who speak out."
2(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:
The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard?
The statement was about Mr. Depp?
The statement was false?
The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp?
The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard?
Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp?
2(b). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice?
3. As to this statement appearing in the op-ed entitled "A Transformative Moment For Women" in the Washington Post's print edition and the online op-ed "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change in the Washington Post's online edition:
"I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse."
3(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:
The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard?
The statement was about Mr. Depp?
The statement was false?
The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp?
The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard?
Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp?
3(b). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice?
4. As against Amber Heard, state the amount of compensatory damages, if any, you believe John C. Depp, II has proven, by a greater weight of the evidence, that he is entitled to recover:
We, the Jury, award compensatory damages in the amount of $_______
5. As against Amber Heard state the amount of punitive damages, if any, to which you find John C. Depp, II is entitled to recover: 
We, the Jury, award punitive damages in the amount of $________
1. As to this statement appearing in the April 8, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:
"Amber Heard and her friends in the media use fake sexual violence allegations as both a sword and shield, depending on their needs. They have selected some of her sexual violence hoax 'facts as the sword, inflicting them on the public and Mr. Depp."
1(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that: 
Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement? 
The statement was about Ms. Heard? 
The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard? 
The statement was false? 
1(b). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice? 
2. As to this statement appearing in the April 27, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:
“Quite simply this was an ambush, a hoax. They set Mr. Depp up by calling the cops but the first attempt didn't do the trick. The officers came to the penthouses, thoroughly searched and interviewed, and left after seeing no damage to face or property. So Amber and her friends spilled a little wine and roughed the place up, got their stories straight under the direction of a lawyer and publicist, and then placed a second call to 911."
2(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that: 
Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement? 
The statement was about Ms. Heard? 
The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard? 
The statement was false? 
2(b). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice? 
3. As to this statement appearing in the April 27, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:
"We have reached the beginning of the end of Ms. Heard's abuse hoax against Johnny Depp."
3(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation?
Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that: 
Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement? 
The statement was about Ms. Heard? 
The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard? 
The statement was false? 
3(b). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice? 
4. As against John C. Depp, II, state the amount of compensatory damages, if any, you believe Amber Heard has proven, by a greater weight of the evidence, that she is entitled to recover: 
We, the Jury, award compensatory damages in the amount of $_______
5. As against John C. Depp, II, state the amount of punitive damages, if any, you to which you find Amber Heard is entitled to recover: 
We, the Jury, award punitive damages in the amount of $____________

因为条件必须全部符合,所以其实我心里对JD能否赢是十分悲观的。

网上还有说:很大几率就是JD和AH都赢,那就太惨了,JD赢了拿50M,AH赢了可是拿100M,那真是太便宜她了!!

也是关注了这场诉讼我才知道,在美国的司法里,
  • 在刑事诉讼里,Jury只负责判断guilty or not,法官负责量刑。
  • 而在民事诉讼里,Jury不单止负责判断yes or no,还负责裁决damage award。
在宣布verdict的时候,大家听了这么多yes no,估计都很懵逼。幸好我都翻出了文字版,是NBC的“Johnny Depp-Amber Heard Trial: What Did Jurors Consider for a Verdict?”,截图如下:
-.by NBC.-

所以就是说JD的3个statements都胜诉了,AH的3个statements只赢了一个,最后Jury判给JD15M,给AH2M。不过根据州最高的Punitive Award是35K,所以最后判给JD的是10.35M,而不是15M。

好了,追了这么久的剧终于迎来大结局,还是大团圆结局,正义得到彰显,太开心了。

不过追了这么久的剧,还是需要好好写篇观影感受的,​有好几个点想说:

  1. AH就是家暴者,这么蛇蝎心肠的人不能赢
  2. 希望AH的例子不要给被家暴的女生制作更多麻烦。Abusers就是abuser, 无论男女。
  3. JD本身也有很多问题呀,嗑药,酗酒。。。他发起酒疯也很可怕呀,女生也会害怕的,不过更像是精神上的施暴。
  4. 大家选边无可非议,但是硬是把JD和女神律师搞CP就太一厢情愿了吧。还有骂AH的律师的,人家也是做自己的工作而已,人身攻击就不好了。
  5. 真的不能以貌取人呀,天使的面孔,蛇蝎的心肠。;海盗的外表,温柔的内心。。。
  6. JD待朋友真是没得说的,简直是别人家的朋友。。。(看看他是怎么帮助Isaac Baruch,还有bodyguard 的证词-$5000? he gave more than that...)
  7. AH真的很美呀,演技真烂呀,太用力了。
当初看见AH 2016的视频,觉得她就是无辜的小白兔,如果不是早就知道她的歹毒,肯定就会被带偏的。
-.无辜小白兔look.-

最后说些花絮:

  • 我最喜欢的证人是TMZ狗仔队证人Morgan Tremaine。看他怼AH的律师Elaine太爽了——(你说我是为了曝光才来作证的?)那我也可以这样说你呀,你就是为了曝光才做AH的律师的吧!🤣🤣🤣
  • 据说如果AH不提Kate Moss的话,JD这边是不能让她出庭的(别问我为什么呀)。所以当时一听到Kate Moss的名字,JD这边的律师团都开心坏了,Ben还做了个yes的手势🤣🤣

 这几年被选中做陪审团两次,每次都被我以语言不行拒绝了。工作生活上英文没有问题,但是面对法律上的就不行了。如果连理解都有问题,怎么能对被告原告做出公平、正确的裁决呢?!为了公平,还是拒绝好些。

吃完瓜了,没有失落,为JD开心。希望AH不要再冒充受害者了,收手吧!

1 条评论:

QQXK 说...

这是Gemini解释为什JD不能让Kate Moss出庭为他们作证的原因:
Gemini:
在法律程序中,这种现象通常与证据法中的**“开门原则”(Opening the Door)**有关。简单来说,法官在审理案件时,通常会限制证人证言的范围,要求其必须与案件的核心事实直接相关,以防止庭审变成对当事人整个人生历史的“大挖坟”。
​以下是该案例中凯特·摩丝(Kate Moss)作证背后的法理逻辑:
​1. 禁止“品格证据”的原则
​在大多数英美法系法庭中,原告或被告不能仅仅为了证明对方“以前就不是个好人”或“有暴力倾向”而引入过去的负面行为作为证据。
​初衷: 法律希望陪审团关注本次诉讼的具体指控(即德普是否对希尔德施暴,或希尔德是否诽谤),而不是因为德普在20年前曾砸坏过酒店房间就判定他现在也动手了。
​结果: 德普过去的感情生活(包括与凯特·摩丝的关系)最初被法官裁定为不相关的,因此德普团队不能主动传唤她来证明“他以前对我很好”。
​2. “开门”效应 (Opening the Door)
​当艾梅柏·希尔德(Amber Heard)在证人席上主动提到了凯特·摩丝时,情况发生了根本性的变化。
​希尔德在描述一次冲突时称,她当时打了德普,是因为她担心德普会将她的妹妹推下楼梯。她随后加了一句:“我立刻想到了凯特·摩丝和楼梯。”
​这一句话在法律上产生了两个后果:
​引入了特定事实: 希尔德暗示(或引用了传闻)德普曾将凯特·摩丝推下楼梯。
​允许反驳: 一旦希尔德一方主动提起了这段往事,这段原本“不相关”的关系就变成了**“相关”的。德普的律师现在有权引入证据来反驳(Rebuttal)**这个具体指控。
​3. 反驳证据的必要性
​如果希尔德不提,凯特·摩丝的证言属于“无关的品格证词”;但希尔德提了,凯特·摩丝的证言就变成了“对虚假陈述的澄清”。
​德普的律师团队在希尔德提到“楼梯”那一刻表现得非常兴奋(甚至握拳庆祝),是因为希尔德在法律上给了他们一个**“入场券”。他们借此机会传唤了凯特·摩丝,而摩丝在视频作证中明确表示:“他从未推过我、踢过我,或把我扔下任何楼梯。”**
​总结
​这就是为什么如果希尔德方保持沉默,德普方就无法让她出庭:法律不允许为了“立人设”而传唤前任,但绝对允许为了“拆穿谎言”而传唤当事人。 希尔德的策略失误在于,她为了证明自己当时打人的动机合理,无意中打开了那扇原本紧锁的法律之门。